What I have noticed is that the people who are accusing other people of being racist always seem to be the ones who really are the most guilty of it. The accusation is throwing a guilt trip. Go figure.

Prejudice is an interesting dichotomy. The only thing worse than persecution is paranoia.

I am still waiting for someone who is not a racist to come along and prove otherwise.

Dichotomy


a division into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities <the dichotomy between theory and practice>; also : the process or practice of making such a division <dichotomy of the population into two opposed classes>
2: the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated
3 a: bifurcation; especially : repeated bifurcation (as of a plant's stem) b: a system of branching in which the main axis forks repeatedly into two branches c: branching of an ancestral line into two equal diverging branches
4: something with seemingly contradictory qualities <it's a dichotomy, this opulent Ritz-style luxury in a place that fronts on a boat harbor

Yeah , I guess using the word dichotomy would kinda make sense when talking about the word prejudice and race .

But I like my definition better---- prejudice--- to pre-judge a person befor you have met them . Once you met them you're not prejudice to say how they are , if its true then its true but only for that one person and not the entire group , even if some of this group calls you prejudice for saying the truth .

Lies can be prejudice driven , but the truth never can .

I did get in a thing once a few years back that was getting ugly. It was one of these situations where if I said nothing it would end up in a bad situation and if I said anything then I was being turned into some rabid throwback neanderthal chauvenist. I am a communication Tech. We also have another type of electronic tech called Meter and Relay techs. They are unique to the power industry. They work in substations and set up the protective relaying equipment and the electronic metering equipment. They made a position called a "C & I" that is a combination Comm and M/R tech, paid 5% more and are supposed to be able to deal with either job. The tech who got the first C&I posiition was female.

So I was headed to Hualapai Mtn, which is just to the south of Kingman. The boss told me to take her along and show her the site. I said that would be very fine, but I told her you have to understand, it's a hard 4 wheel drive ride up there and there are no sanitary facilities. There's only bushes and there will be other people up there.

The thing is, what the female M&R folks have done for many years is when they have to go they just drive to the closest place with a civilized toilet and do it there. She said she didn't see any reason why I couldn't do the same thing up there. I said hell no. It's a hard time getting up there, it's a rough road that beats up man and machine, and the way we've always worked is we drive up in the morning and down in the afternoon, one trip each way is plenty. We pee in the bushes and if we absolutely must poo, well, we have our ways.

I suppose where I really started slipping was when I was trying to be helpful and told her that we have a generator room that can be private and when we are camping my wife uses a coffee can as an ad-hoc chamber pot. I could see her jaw setting when I said that and it was quickly turning into me being an old fart unwilling to embrace the new ways. The more I talked the worse it got, and I could see that they were headed toward telling me to run her up and down that mountain for potty breaks, which I considered to be untenable. That was really uncomfortable.

It was mentioned that she could take my truck and drive down, but I said she doesn't have any experience with 4WD and that isn't a very good place to learn. A few years after this scenario, there was an Air Force girl driving up to White Tanks on a similar road who let her truck roll and was killed.

You know the hell of it was, I was on the safety committee way back in the 80's. I brought up the issue of sanitary facilities at remote comm sites back then. Among other things I said it makes it hard to recruit female comm techs when we don't provide facilities for them on site. I got a fair amount of ridicule for even bringing it up. Most guys feel any guy should be able to pee behind a tree. Well, I've done more than my share of that and I don't have a problem with it, but nothing was ever done and here, a couple decades later, who is being accused of sexism over the very issue I tried to get them to address?

Ended up she didn't come with me and nothing more came of it, but it sure makes you feel crummy knowing you are just doing your best to keep anyone from being in an uncomfortable or even dangerous situation and you are being caste as a rotten no-goodnick for your troubles.

Man ol man Cactus I hear you , Ive been down the exact same road when it comes to toilet facilities and women workers . Not all of them but most of them for sure . From my experience I'm not so sure a porta john would make much difference .

By contract we provide porta johns for our employees but most the lady workers refuse to use them , and if you want problems just say they have too . Been there done that . With the lady folk I kinda have a dont ask dont tell deal with them , if they dont want to use them , then its every women for themselves and I leave it at that . Yeah I know what their options are and for the most part they are really good about it and I seldom hear any complaint from the men . Its been a while but we've had remote jobs where there wasn't a option , but given any sort of option with the ladies its the best option for all .

Now you're going to think I'm joking on this one but I'm actually concern when the Mormons start migrating by walking back east they arnt going to make it. Nope I just cant see this happening with out a major set back . They've got some real problems they haven't thought about .

It wont take long for them to realize they will have to make a hand cart or real life porta john , kinda like a johnny cart if you know where I'm coming from with the lady folk .

I suppose if Mose's troupes could pack the ark and a covenant cross country then It'll be all right for the Mormons to do the same with a precious as gold throne , kinda fitting if you think about it . Some low on the post Mormon men are are going to have to pull this Johny cart all the way back to the missippi and then find some way to float the dang thing to the other bank .

Being a jack, lowest on the post , I kinda think the time will come they're going to ask me to pull the sob-en thing . Well they can piss & poo up a rope and call it in style if they think I'm going to harness up to that buzz fly magnet . Cause I got news for them , their crap stinks also . I mean since when was out of style to find a tree or bush ?

Well it aint out of style, Simply said , Mormons have become indoctrinated to worship porcelain as if a golden calf . Yup , they have become porcelain Pagans . Thall shall not have any Pagan god befor me, says the Lord . Yeah right . There's going to be thousands of Mormons seeking and praising their Pagan god singing a changed version of a song into ---go go you saints no toil or labor fear , all is well porcelain is near .

I can see it all now Cactus , and dang I'm hoping my DNA make up will decide to sit this one out , or least have the ability to persuade these saints a shovel is the best on the road toilet facility know to man . Aw Hell , when that day comes wish me luck will ya ?

You are so wrong here, Yank.

It is extremely easy for someone with a deceptive nature to take a truth and slowly twist it into something ugly.

Like what Warren did, for instance.

My father used to say, "The devil will not try to lead you astray with an obvious lie. No. He will feed you a truth. And then another truth that has just a little white lie attached to it. And then a partial truth until he has you believing him and then he will lead you down the primrose path to hell."

Anyone can take a truth and expound upon that truth with a seemingly logical interpretation of that truth. We all do it. That's exactly what every one of us here does to prove our point. That is the basic ground of the debate.

The stickling point is that truth is as it is perceived. And since everyone's perception of truth is just a little off, true %100 unadulterated truth is unattainable.

The only thing we can do is hash it all out until we come to a collective agreement on the best perception of said interpreted truth.