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Self Proclaimed Greatness
At the risk of getting to hooky, I thought it might be worth addressing the Hoax Caller that started all of this, or at least my view.

First of all, I agree with CPS on this. Who cares. . . . .?? I'm upset that CPS didn't make a better effort to authenticate the call. For example: When someone calls to change a password on my network, I don't just do it, I authenticate the person. I mean, even caller ID should have said that person wasn't calling for TX or AZ. A blocked caller ID would have instantly aroused my suspicion. But CPS has come clean with that. They didn’t care, they were just looking for an excuse to get in.

But I wrote in another post, for the past four years, I’ve awoken in the night wrapped in terror and the feeling of, “Where have all the children been taken to?” And I didn’t have children in my house at the time. It was confusing and usually took 15-20 minute to shake off. It happened again last night, and this time is actually made a little sense, though don’t remember anything in the dream.

But it is odd that this hoaxer faked a call that was almost the exact situation of a woman on the other side of the world, in Austria. That she did it to the FLDS, also a little odd, whom she supposedly has no ties to what so ever.

Just to say, sometimes I feel like a pawn, motivated by things I don’t understand. I think that I am just as horrified, saddened, and downright depressed at what is being reported from the TX compound as anyone else. I don’t believe in their religion, I’m angry at their prophet, I’m angry at them, and I’m sure that anyone of them would treat me like the devil if they met me, but I feel deeply motivated to point out that the full responsibility of this nightmare doesn’t lay entirely with them.

America has selfish pride that has contributed to this situation as much as anything. People in the effort to help has caused some very deep pain, which they feel justified in, as if the people they hurt deserved it. I’m guilty too, but it doesn’t make it right.

I don’t claim to be grand enough to see the entire situation, so I try to stay in my little corner to preach. But a lot of innocent people are being hurt and a lot of Americans are thinking, “Right On!” How innocent are they? How innocent are any of us . . . . . and they are probably much more innocent then that.

We are all victims of our beliefs and pawns of our faith. That some of us think that our beliefs justifies hurting of others. . . .makes us like them. But I acknowledge that all of us have our connections to the “invisible” that we don’t always understand what motivates us.

So, I really have no beef is the hoaxer. If her motives were “cruel intentions” I hope justices is served, but it really doesn’t matter to me. I’m more concerned that such a hoax could be played and that CPS didn’t work harder to authenticate the caller.
Cactus Jim
QUOTE (Self Proclaimed Greatness @ May 1 2008, 12:50 PM)
At the risk of getting to hooky, I thought it might be worth addressing the Hoax Caller that started all of this, or at least my view.

It appears that this lady has a split personality. When Flora was talking to her she got her to the point where she was talking about one personality while she was the other. It would seem that she's been seriously abused in her life, but I haven't heard any details of that if they are known. She is fascinated with abuse and apparently she made a study of the FLDS, so when she made the call she knew a lot of details about life there and names of people in the community. That added some authenticity to it.

Flora didn't get involved with her until she'd already called Texas CPS. She had Flora fooled for a long time but eventually she started to see through it and that was when she contacted law enforcement. She sounded just like a little girl so when Flora found out she was a 33 year old African American she was about floored. When you think of Warren's hateful racial theology and the male supremacy it is funny to think that this group is being brought down by a black woman. As they say, what goes around comes around.
Self Proclaimed Greatness
QUOTE (Cactus Jim @ May 1 2008, 06:15 PM)
When you think of Warren's hateful racial theology and the male supremacy it is funny to think that this group is being brought down by a black woman.

I guess the same could be said about Bin Laden. I don't find what did she funny at all. 400+ children ripped from their homes isn't funny, I don't care how you slice it.

And while Warren is crazy, most of "hate lanauge" isn't even his. Most of what he has said about Black can be found in Journal of Discourses, via Brigham Young. Warren isn't smart enough to actually hate. And I'd be surprised if a plig has done anything but avoid a black person. They are not active haters like neo-Nazi's, or the KKK, or other white supremacy groups.

The first time I ever heard the term "White Power" was in SLC, from a one-off Mormon. He said something like, "I believe in White Power." I was like, "so do I." It was the first time I had ever actually be faced with the issue. It took me about hour to realize that I didn't believe in "White Power" at all. Even at an young age and fresh out of the cult, I quickly realized that color of your skin had no impact on what kind of ruler you would be.

It took me a while longer to realize that I did have some racist beliefs and a little longer to work through them. But I ever remember "hating" someone because of the color of their skin. I realized that my attraction to people can be influenced by skin color, I really don't remember thinking myself better.

The first time I ever saw a black man was in Cedar City when I was 14. We both stepped off the sidewalk to let each other pass, I tried to be friendly, but he wouldn't look at me. Even though I was taught that the black race somehow had the ability of taking my priesthood away from me if I had sex with one, I never found that to be a reason to hate them.

I live a few miles from a city called Rising Sun, where it thought to be the home town of the KKK. There are 3-11 clubs all over the place, (3-11 is code for KKK). They are active haters. They strive to keep black people out of the government, etc. Having grown up in that town, I seriously doubt that the majority are even capable of that kind of hate. I never saw it. And when I realized how stupid the idea of race being able take away a person's connection with God was, I dumped the racist thing entirely. Not to say, I don't run into a little hidden pool of racial reserve once in a while. Anyway, I don't think that these people are that racist. They may think they are, but I think when it comes down to it, these people would offer a hand of geniune friendship quicker then most White Americans.
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