Check out this DOE website http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/ That outfit from Provo, Raser, that used low heat for geothermal energy is building an 11 MW plant in New Mexico. Also your government is soliciting customers for $10 Billion dollars worth of loan guarantees for renewable energy projects. A long guarantee isn't exactly like a grant but it can sure push financing costs down. I gotta wonder what Geo Thermal resources you have there in the Logan general area.
http://geothermal.inl.gov/maps/ut.pdf shows at least one hot well. Lgoan is shown as a potential geothermal area. So, what has been happening with your advisory board to the city electrical system?
Full Version: Chaster, any energy in Logan?
| QUOTE (Cactus Jim @ Jul 19 2008, 09:19 AM) |
| Check out this DOE website http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/ That outfit from Provo, Raser, that used low heat for geothermal energy is building an 11 MW plant in New Mexico. Also your government is soliciting customers for $10 Billion dollars worth of loan guarantees for renewable energy projects. A long guarantee isn't exactly like a grant but it can sure push financing costs down. I gotta wonder what Geo Thermal resources you have there in the Logan general area. http://geothermal.inl.gov/maps/ut.pdf shows at least one hot well. Lgoan is shown as a potential geothermal area. So, what has been happening with your advisory board to the city electrical system? |
Thanks for that link, Cactus. I'm forewarding that on to our city council.
I think we're getting close to deciding whether we're the renewable energy citizen's group vs the renewable resources citizen's group. We've argued about that quite a bit. And then we'll move on to focusing like a laser beam on renewable energy and or resources.
Actually, we have gotten a few things did:
We hired a full time person to do a carbon footprint of Logan, write up a newsletter that gets mailed along with the electricity bills, promote public awareness on energy conservation methods, set up a program to encourage people to use CFLs AND recycle the spent CFLs properly, things like that.
The city of Logan now has net metering, of which I was the first recipient of one.
The city of Logan, which has its own power company and isn't on Rocky Mountain Power, now has a $2k per kilowatt installed PV incentive, of which I was the recipient of. It used to be "The day one of you tree hugging enviro mental cases actually spend your own money on saving the planet is the day I might, and I say might, actually take you seriously." So now it's "The day one of you tree hugging enviro mental cases actually spend your own money and without relying on socialistic government handouts on saving the planet is the day I might, and I say might, actually take you seriously." Naturally, I don't see it that way. I see it as the City of Logan has gotten a great bargain here. The city has to purchase generating capacity anyway.It's not a handout, but a purchase of generating capacity. The City of Logan has purchased some clean renewable generating capacity for which I have picked up most the cost.
We're trying to get our mayor to sign onto the Mayors' Climate Protection Agreement, but he's pretty much old school. As in, yes, renewable energy is real fashionable and all but coal power is the real deal.
What is happening now, however, renewable is the real deal now. That's taking awhile to sink in, but renewable is the real deal now.
Well, so far, Cactus, your idea, which I took the liberty of plagarising, hasn't met with too hot a reception:
Renewable Energy And/Or Resources Board:
Check out this DOE website http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/ That outfit from Provo, Raser, that used low heat for geothermal energy is building an 11 MW plant in New Mexico. Also our government is soliciting customers for $10 Billion dollars worth of loan guarantees for renewable energy projects. A loan guarantee isn't exactly like a grant but it can sure push financing costs down. I gotta wonder what geothermal resources we have in the Logan general area.
http://geothermal.inl.gov/maps/ut.pdf shows at least one hot well. Lgoan is shown as a potential geothermal area.
Charles
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From: "Jason Berry" <JASONBERRY@utah.gov>
Chris et. al.:
Logan does not have a great potential for geothermal. As you may know Box Elder has some potential, but until an exploratory well(s) are drilled it is just speculation.
However, Logan can look to getting Geothermal Power from the other upcoming projects in Utah. Namely the Cove Fort (Enel North America Inc.), which may go on line in 2011. Pacificorp maybe doubling production (32 to 64MW) from the Blundell site in the next couple years and Raser is developing more just south of Milford. Utah.
Logan will just have to pay more then it currently does for old coal. However, It will be competitive with Natural Gas and prices will not increase due to fuel prices.
Don't forget it is baseload power.
Jason Berry, Manager
State Energy Program
Utah Geological Survey
801-538-5413
Fax:801-538-4795
jasonberry@utah.gov
geology.utah.gov/sep
"Logan does not have a great potential for geothermal. "
It might do to re-evaluate that in light of claims of technologies being able to produce power economically with less temperature differential than was traditionally considered necessary. (Yes, I'm aware of the laws of themodynamics where efficiency = delta T / T. Yes, we'd do well to be skeptical of the claims made.)
I mention this, because I've recently read "Earth, the Sequel, the Race to Reinvent Energy and Stop Global Warming" by Fred Krupp and Miriam Horn.
In chapter 7 the book describes this eccentric tinkerer entrepenuer by the name of Bernie Karl. He's had the distinction of being mentioned in Forbes for having come up with the "dumbest business idea of the year" back in 2004. His venture, to carve the six-room Aurora Ice Hotel out of fiftenn thousand tons of ice and snow in Chena, Alaska. Bernie's team embedded refrigeration tubing in an insulated exoskeleton to circulate glycol cooled by Caterpillar-built diesel generators at a cost of $700 a day. It didn't work. Within a few months of its January 2004 opening, the hotel was melting down. "I had a frozen asset, and I turned it into a liquid asset," Bernie joked with a reporter.
Some guys just don't know when to quit. He'd heard about claims of physicist, Don Erickson, who claimed to have come up with a three-pressure geothermal absorption chiller (most operate at only one pressure). Bernie applied this concept to tapping into Chena hot springs for providing the refrigeration to cool his next ice hotel venture. Bernie's absorption chiller was the first three-pressure chiller in the world to use geothermal energy. By all rights, that second system should also have failed; numerous experts assured Bernie he was just throwing more money away. Instead, the system worked.
From that success, Bernie got the attention of United Technologies Corporation, a $48 billion Fortune 500 company, which wanted to apply aspects of Bernie's contraption to modify its "PureCyle 200" power plant developed to make electricity from waste heat.
UTC is now building 225 KW power plants based on the three-pressure concept for commercial sale, while continuing work on a 1 MW plant. More than half of the first year's production has been sold to Raser Technologies, a Provo, Utah, based company that holds geothermal leases on 14,000 acres in Utah and will use 135 plantes to produce 30 MW of electricity.
I'm just wondering is all. Would it pay for the City of Logan to give Raser Technologies a call?
Charles
Renewable Energy And/Or Resources Board:
Check out this DOE website http://www1.eere.energy.gov/geothermal/ That outfit from Provo, Raser, that used low heat for geothermal energy is building an 11 MW plant in New Mexico. Also our government is soliciting customers for $10 Billion dollars worth of loan guarantees for renewable energy projects. A loan guarantee isn't exactly like a grant but it can sure push financing costs down. I gotta wonder what geothermal resources we have in the Logan general area.
http://geothermal.inl.gov/maps/ut.pdf shows at least one hot well. Lgoan is shown as a potential geothermal area.
Charles
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From: "Jason Berry" <JASONBERRY@utah.gov>
Chris et. al.:
Logan does not have a great potential for geothermal. As you may know Box Elder has some potential, but until an exploratory well(s) are drilled it is just speculation.
However, Logan can look to getting Geothermal Power from the other upcoming projects in Utah. Namely the Cove Fort (Enel North America Inc.), which may go on line in 2011. Pacificorp maybe doubling production (32 to 64MW) from the Blundell site in the next couple years and Raser is developing more just south of Milford. Utah.
Logan will just have to pay more then it currently does for old coal. However, It will be competitive with Natural Gas and prices will not increase due to fuel prices.
Don't forget it is baseload power.
Jason Berry, Manager
State Energy Program
Utah Geological Survey
801-538-5413
Fax:801-538-4795
jasonberry@utah.gov
geology.utah.gov/sep
"Logan does not have a great potential for geothermal. "
It might do to re-evaluate that in light of claims of technologies being able to produce power economically with less temperature differential than was traditionally considered necessary. (Yes, I'm aware of the laws of themodynamics where efficiency = delta T / T. Yes, we'd do well to be skeptical of the claims made.)
I mention this, because I've recently read "Earth, the Sequel, the Race to Reinvent Energy and Stop Global Warming" by Fred Krupp and Miriam Horn.
In chapter 7 the book describes this eccentric tinkerer entrepenuer by the name of Bernie Karl. He's had the distinction of being mentioned in Forbes for having come up with the "dumbest business idea of the year" back in 2004. His venture, to carve the six-room Aurora Ice Hotel out of fiftenn thousand tons of ice and snow in Chena, Alaska. Bernie's team embedded refrigeration tubing in an insulated exoskeleton to circulate glycol cooled by Caterpillar-built diesel generators at a cost of $700 a day. It didn't work. Within a few months of its January 2004 opening, the hotel was melting down. "I had a frozen asset, and I turned it into a liquid asset," Bernie joked with a reporter.
Some guys just don't know when to quit. He'd heard about claims of physicist, Don Erickson, who claimed to have come up with a three-pressure geothermal absorption chiller (most operate at only one pressure). Bernie applied this concept to tapping into Chena hot springs for providing the refrigeration to cool his next ice hotel venture. Bernie's absorption chiller was the first three-pressure chiller in the world to use geothermal energy. By all rights, that second system should also have failed; numerous experts assured Bernie he was just throwing more money away. Instead, the system worked.
From that success, Bernie got the attention of United Technologies Corporation, a $48 billion Fortune 500 company, which wanted to apply aspects of Bernie's contraption to modify its "PureCyle 200" power plant developed to make electricity from waste heat.
UTC is now building 225 KW power plants based on the three-pressure concept for commercial sale, while continuing work on a 1 MW plant. More than half of the first year's production has been sold to Raser Technologies, a Provo, Utah, based company that holds geothermal leases on 14,000 acres in Utah and will use 135 plantes to produce 30 MW of electricity.
I'm just wondering is all. Would it pay for the City of Logan to give Raser Technologies a call?
Charles
Well, instead of quoting the book about the ice motel, I'd have shown him Raser's Geothermal page, which explains that they can use temperatures as low as 165 to produce power. It's not unproven. The idea is they don't use water to generate steam, but freon, which has a much lower temperature operating curve. http://www.rasertech.com/geothermal_low_temp.html
They also talk about using industrial waste heat. I wouldn't know if there are any industries in the area that have possibilities or not. Anyway, Raser isn't the manufacturer of those low temp generators. They had the foresight to jump in and buy the first units off the production line.
They also talk about using industrial waste heat. I wouldn't know if there are any industries in the area that have possibilities or not. Anyway, Raser isn't the manufacturer of those low temp generators. They had the foresight to jump in and buy the first units off the production line.
| QUOTE (Cactus Jim @ Jul 25 2008, 04:19 AM) |
| Well, instead of quoting the book about the ice motel, I'd have shown him Raser's Geothermal page, which explains that they can use temperatures as low as 165 to produce power. It's not unproven. The idea is they don't use water to generate steam, but freon, which has a much lower temperature operating curve. http://www.rasertech.com/geothermal_low_temp.html They also talk about using industrial waste heat. I wouldn't know if there are any industries in the area that have possibilities or not. Anyway, Raser isn't the manufacturer of those low temp generators. They had the foresight to jump in and buy the first units off the production line. |
Hope you don't mind me plagarizing you again, Cactus. Otherwise, I'm sure sorry about it.
How I wish we could take several people and sort of cannibalize the best qualities of each and then arrive at something approaching a human being. I’d take the business acumen of my brother, combine it with my high ideals, combine us into one reasonable competent human being who might could actually get somewhere with a good cause. Problem is, I’ve good these nifty ideas, but I’m just a middle class wage slave. My brother has the big bucks, but then he’ll go out and buy a stupid house boat, which he certainly has earned that right to do and all, but still. I can’t but envy what you could do to, yes, enjoy some well earned toys, but also advance some other values that’d be nice to have advanced. Such as ethics.
It’s like, for him, as with so many of our successful people of today, ethics is the first stage booster of the rocket to success. Once that apogee is attained, however, that stage gets jettisoned, and now it’s playtime.
I mean, as long as he’s just going to throw away $100,000 on a stupid house boat anyway, why not do something amazing and outstanding with it? Not that I in any way deserve it or have earned it, but if I could be the same person he is but a different side to him, I too would have just a ball with that $100k, but fun in a different way, the fun of doing something amazingly wonderfully excellent.
It’s funny how this same brother of mine will decry that ethics has been in a long steady decline that more than likely will put this whole country, this whole planet, into the poor house. And then he’ll do what? Go out and buy a stupid house boat for crying out loud, the danged red neck.
Let’s face it. A middle class wage slave in this culture is a nobody, not to be taken seriously. But, if I were a wealthy man, I’d call up the bishop of one of these many mall-sized churches we have on every other block, and I’d say, “I’d like to donate a $100k gift to your church, but I’d like it to be used in a specific sort of a way. I’d like to put up a 10 kW solar electric system in the parking lot of your church so as to help power your church. I mean, yes, let’s be sensitive to that most excellent architecture that was used to stamp out yet another copy of your church and not interfere with that. We’ll put the PV panels on posts in the parking lot. What do you say? In addition to helping out with your quite sizable electricity bills, you will be getting some shade in your parking lot. Oh, and just as a footnote, it will also make an ethical statement, thereby setting a good examples for the attendees.” And then he’d most likely say, “I’ll get back to you on that.”
And then, if the answer were no, I’d make a big deal about it. “These churches here today don’t care about ethics,” I’d say. “All they’re about is selling a brand name, no different from say Coca Cola.”
If the answer were yes, I’d make a big deal about that too. “Yes,” I’d proclaim. “Ethics maybe has a chance after all. Our churches here have such a fantastic untapped potential for the almost impossible task of advancing ethics. Here is one positive indication that our churches of today are still in the ethics business after all.”
No doubt about it, ethics is a very tough tough sell indeed, as we have seen. You’re asking people to use actual brain thinking to consider consequences and put important desirable things on hold in favor of a long term view by which you’ll prosper in the long haul but you’re going to have to make sacrifices for that in term’s of today’s pleasures. A few eccentric individuals here and there making that case aren’t going to get very far with that tough sell. When you have a church helping you out with that goal, however, it’s a night and day different story. Then, you have a prayer of a chance at success.
That’s what you can do if you’ve got one or both of the following: One, a high position in a religion, or Two, tons of money. Neither of which I have.
Yet.
It’s like, for him, as with so many of our successful people of today, ethics is the first stage booster of the rocket to success. Once that apogee is attained, however, that stage gets jettisoned, and now it’s playtime.
I mean, as long as he’s just going to throw away $100,000 on a stupid house boat anyway, why not do something amazing and outstanding with it? Not that I in any way deserve it or have earned it, but if I could be the same person he is but a different side to him, I too would have just a ball with that $100k, but fun in a different way, the fun of doing something amazingly wonderfully excellent.
It’s funny how this same brother of mine will decry that ethics has been in a long steady decline that more than likely will put this whole country, this whole planet, into the poor house. And then he’ll do what? Go out and buy a stupid house boat for crying out loud, the danged red neck.
Let’s face it. A middle class wage slave in this culture is a nobody, not to be taken seriously. But, if I were a wealthy man, I’d call up the bishop of one of these many mall-sized churches we have on every other block, and I’d say, “I’d like to donate a $100k gift to your church, but I’d like it to be used in a specific sort of a way. I’d like to put up a 10 kW solar electric system in the parking lot of your church so as to help power your church. I mean, yes, let’s be sensitive to that most excellent architecture that was used to stamp out yet another copy of your church and not interfere with that. We’ll put the PV panels on posts in the parking lot. What do you say? In addition to helping out with your quite sizable electricity bills, you will be getting some shade in your parking lot. Oh, and just as a footnote, it will also make an ethical statement, thereby setting a good examples for the attendees.” And then he’d most likely say, “I’ll get back to you on that.”
And then, if the answer were no, I’d make a big deal about it. “These churches here today don’t care about ethics,” I’d say. “All they’re about is selling a brand name, no different from say Coca Cola.”
If the answer were yes, I’d make a big deal about that too. “Yes,” I’d proclaim. “Ethics maybe has a chance after all. Our churches here have such a fantastic untapped potential for the almost impossible task of advancing ethics. Here is one positive indication that our churches of today are still in the ethics business after all.”
No doubt about it, ethics is a very tough tough sell indeed, as we have seen. You’re asking people to use actual brain thinking to consider consequences and put important desirable things on hold in favor of a long term view by which you’ll prosper in the long haul but you’re going to have to make sacrifices for that in term’s of today’s pleasures. A few eccentric individuals here and there making that case aren’t going to get very far with that tough sell. When you have a church helping you out with that goal, however, it’s a night and day different story. Then, you have a prayer of a chance at success.
That’s what you can do if you’ve got one or both of the following: One, a high position in a religion, or Two, tons of money. Neither of which I have.
Yet.
| QUOTE (chaster @ Jul 28 2008, 11:40 AM) |
| My brother has the big bucks, but then he’ll go out and buy a stupid house boat, which he certainly has earned that right to do and all, but still. I can’t but envy what you could do to, yes, enjoy some well earned toys, but also advance some other values that’d be nice to have advanced. |
Let's not forget, he has a Prius. Also a Motorcycle, which is quite economical. Also an airplane, which isn't all that economical except he can drive it in a straight line, thereby bypassing a lot of road miles. Also he has an "assertive" wife, which can be a great motivation to get out of the house.
| QUOTE (Cactus Jim @ Jul 29 2008, 03:32 AM) |
| Let's not forget, he has a Prius. Also a Motorcycle, which is quite economical. Also an airplane, which isn't all that economical except he can drive it in a straight line, thereby bypassing a lot of road miles. Also he has an "assertive" wife, which can be a great motivation to get out of the house. |
Actually, he's the gold standard of good qualities in my book. And, there's certainly nothing inherently unethical in his buying for himself some well earned well deserved toys.
And. I can see how, being a guy who likes to accomplish things, as he has always done since he was a young lad, you could tend toward a negative view of social conscience types. I can see how that would happen. I can see how a person who likes to accomplish things with minimal obsticles could get to where he'd say something along the lines of "I have paid my dues to every sort of parasitic do-gooder type who has ever come up with a reason to, one, throw every sort of obsticle in the way of somebody who wants to get something done, and then, two, tax the hell out of that person after he has done it. Throughout a long touch road of a career, I have had to put up with that and fight tooth and nail to have anything left over for the high crime of actually accomplishing something in this world. And so now the do-gooders of the world can go f' themselves. I'm taking what little they haven't siphened off already and I am going to enjoy myself."
I can appreciate that point of view.
On the other hand, that's precisely why ethics is such a hard sell.
That's why it'd be such a wonderfully miraculous thing if you could have a person who both accomplishes things and then still has something left over for advancing ethical values above and beyond the already heavy burden of it.
Ethics is a heavy burden. No doubt about it. Then again, it's what makes the prosperity possible in the first place.
Kind of like in that song of that Kingston Trio record we listened to over and over again when we were kids until we wore it out:
Take all the water you can hold
Wash your face to your feet.
But leave the bottle full for others.
Thank ya kindly,
Desert Pete
DESERT PETE
The Kingston Trio
I was travellin' West a buckskin on my way to a cattle run
Cross a little cactus desert under a hot blisterin' sun
I was thirsty down to my toenails, stopped to rest me on a stump
But I tell ya I just couldn't believe it when I saw that water pump
I took it to be a mirage at first, it'll fool a thirsty man
Then I saw a note stuck in a bakin' powder can
"This pump is old", the note began, "but she works so give'r a try"
"I put a new sucker washer in 'er, you may find the leather dry"
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
"Yeah, you'll have to prime the pump, work that handle like there's a
fire"
"Under that rock you'll find some water I left in a bitters jar"
"Now there's just enough to prime it with so dontcha go drinkin'
first"
"You just pour it in and pump like mad, buddy, you'll quench your
thirst"
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
Well I found that jar and I tell ya nothin' was ever prettier to my
eye
And I was tempted strong to drink it, cuz that pump looked mighty dry
But the note went on "have faith my friend, there's water down below"
"You got to give until you get-I'm the one who ought to know"
So I poured in the jar and I started pumpin' and I heard a beautiful
sound
Of water bubblin' and splashin' up outta that hole in the ground
I took off my shoes and I drunk my fill of that cool refreshing treat
I thank the Lord and thank the pump and I thank old Desert Pete
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
The Kingston Trio
I was travellin' West a buckskin on my way to a cattle run
Cross a little cactus desert under a hot blisterin' sun
I was thirsty down to my toenails, stopped to rest me on a stump
But I tell ya I just couldn't believe it when I saw that water pump
I took it to be a mirage at first, it'll fool a thirsty man
Then I saw a note stuck in a bakin' powder can
"This pump is old", the note began, "but she works so give'r a try"
"I put a new sucker washer in 'er, you may find the leather dry"
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
"Yeah, you'll have to prime the pump, work that handle like there's a
fire"
"Under that rock you'll find some water I left in a bitters jar"
"Now there's just enough to prime it with so dontcha go drinkin'
first"
"You just pour it in and pump like mad, buddy, you'll quench your
thirst"
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
Well I found that jar and I tell ya nothin' was ever prettier to my
eye
And I was tempted strong to drink it, cuz that pump looked mighty dry
But the note went on "have faith my friend, there's water down below"
"You got to give until you get-I'm the one who ought to know"
So I poured in the jar and I started pumpin' and I heard a beautiful
sound
Of water bubblin' and splashin' up outta that hole in the ground
I took off my shoes and I drunk my fill of that cool refreshing treat
I thank the Lord and thank the pump and I thank old Desert Pete
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe"
"You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
"Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet"
"Leave the bottle full for others, Thank You kindly, Desert Pete"
Charles,
I understand that what Raser is doing and I understand what temperature it takes
to make UTC technology operate well and economically. What I am sayinig is that
there is no evidence that the Logan area has a potential similar to Thermo Hot
Springs or any temperature close to it. Yes, if you drill deep enough you will
find something hot enough, but at what cost? I'm only trying to be realistic.
Again, with the transmission infrastructure in Utah and the West you do not have
to have the development in your back yard. The cost to transport the power over
existing lines will not be the determining factor to whether Logan is willing to
pay for Geothermal developed in Beaver or Iron Counties. It is the fact that
states like California, Arizona, Nevada are willing to pay more or it.
If the Box Elder Geothermal area were to be developed tomorrow and would place a
safe bet that most of it would be sold to California, not to the the Wasatch
Front for Logan area.
Geothermal has come a long way to using lower temperture resources, but Logan still doesn't have the
resource to match the technology. Look at Box Elder if you want something that
has a chance close by. However, there is a reason that it hasn't been developed
and places in S. Utah have and soon will be.
Jason
Jason Berry
Manager
State Energy Program
Utah Geological Survey
I understand that what Raser is doing and I understand what temperature it takes
to make UTC technology operate well and economically. What I am sayinig is that
there is no evidence that the Logan area has a potential similar to Thermo Hot
Springs or any temperature close to it. Yes, if you drill deep enough you will
find something hot enough, but at what cost? I'm only trying to be realistic.
Again, with the transmission infrastructure in Utah and the West you do not have
to have the development in your back yard. The cost to transport the power over
existing lines will not be the determining factor to whether Logan is willing to
pay for Geothermal developed in Beaver or Iron Counties. It is the fact that
states like California, Arizona, Nevada are willing to pay more or it.
If the Box Elder Geothermal area were to be developed tomorrow and would place a
safe bet that most of it would be sold to California, not to the the Wasatch
Front for Logan area.
Geothermal has come a long way to using lower temperture resources, but Logan still doesn't have the
resource to match the technology. Look at Box Elder if you want something that
has a chance close by. However, there is a reason that it hasn't been developed
and places in S. Utah have and soon will be.
Jason
Jason Berry
Manager
State Energy Program
Utah Geological Survey